Faith becomes an outdated word
I feel sorry for people who believe in God ...
Anonymous, male, 17th century
Definitely not! I firmly believe and am convinced that Christians or people who live according to the Bible and believe in God are better and happier people! they know that someone is always there and no matter what terrible thing happens, they will help you. They know that everything will be fine, because God is good. Also, if they live by the Bible then they are honest, kind, confident, humble, and helpful people. There are of course a lot more points, but what I'm getting at is that the Bible clearly shows how to live happily, it is practically like a manual for a good life - and I envy those people who understand it and can stick to it very!
Anonymous, male, 45
because, they need faith - what does that mean - you don't know.
Nope, I actually envy them they are so unshakable when, for example, someone like Bonhoeffer still on death row knows that God is with him in the evening and in the morning it's sensational. Of course I would like that too.
they let themselves be drifted and guided and don't know where to, but let themselves be guided by what?
A. Giese, male, 36
and at the same time reproach their deity for the defects of creation. the unbelieving, the bad, the bad, etc.
Little Anonymous, 20
because they believe in something we don't even know if it's kind to us, if there is such a thing as God.
The question, of course, is: who or what is God?
Heinz Friedrich, 39
namely the God that the unsavory Catholic Church pretends. This cheeky institution, trimmed for profit, tries to manipulate people in their favor. It operates as a profit-maximizing company far removed from the Bible and appoints a chairman of the board, whom she has called the Holy Father. For me there is only one Holy Father and that is God himself.
The power-obsessed institution tries to wash its chronically stained coat clean. However, this godless institution fails. Power and money are most important to them. Pooh
Not. I can understand it. But I despise it when someone tries to force their opinion on me. And I find it more than just regrettable when a believer can think of nothing else than "His ways are just unfathomable." or "The world is full of miracles for me every day"
Anonymous, male, 24
Not. I save my energy for more meaningful things, but I spread my views quite aggressively in order to counter the missionary work
Anonymous, female, 22
when they notice that despite their faith and will, they always seem to be doing something wrong and that God obviously does not want to help them.
Bright, male, 48
Anonymous, male, 20th century
Not. But think that you are afraid of death and do not want to accept the ignorance of whether or what comes afterwards.
I regret believing people just as much as the Christian missionaries in the colonies used to regret the "godless" natives.
I feel sorry for them for living with a belief that future history books will scold and laugh about them for.
Josef Woermann, 57
Despite my own path - I know the one with and without the church, it is better for many people to have a religion and to believe in God or whatever you like to call it. It's like a road with a railing that gives you direction and thereby also restricts you. For many people the easier way. In my experience there is a truth that is not based on the term truth that we usually use but it is the truth of millions of people, millions of believers, and it has its own reality.
But whoever sets out to look for his own way - leaves behind what has previously narrowed him, out into the unlimited wilderness of being, who renounces the tarred road and the safe railing, sets off into the vastness that he never experienced before could. If he is wise, he is humble towards the unknowable, the indescribable, the big picture that he does not see through and to which he bows. I am open to what comes, what happens to me. There is no commitment. If something appears different, I deal with it and try to integrate it into myself.
I regret that I feel the Church is too afraid. She refuses to let go of old power and to encourage believers to set out on their own. The old church has beautiful pictures of the afterlife but too few pictures for life now. They are beautiful pictures for children. When pastors talk about God all the time, that is too little and too banal for enlightened people. Repetition doesn't make it any better either. The church has stopped and refuses to move. When a religion gets old it becomes materialistic and that's over. That's how C.G. To put it young. And he also said: the word Theos has different meanings, one of which is "that which looks in". That means: people have always felt they were being looked at. And it's not a persona, it's the look. He said: Why don't we dare to let go of everything and let us look at us again. And that's how I understand myself.
One more thing, whoever is in the church has only a limited perspective of their own. Whoever went outside has at least two.
Even so, I have respect for believers and would not try to change them.
What I like to do is to discuss with you and to question your and my views and actions.
Anonymous, male, 62
just as little as I regret people who believe in astrology or homeopathy; Today everyone has the opportunity to find out more and have the courage to use their own understanding.
Bernd Nowotny, 68
I do not regret them if they are doing well.
because the Catholic Church gives you fears and worries that you would not have without faith, and because you orient your life according to the instructions of the Catholic Church and thereby unnecessarily restrict yourself and do without some things you would like to do, or it do it with an unnecessarily guilty conscience.
What about, for example, during sexual intercourse? The Pope does not allow pills or condoms. According to the Pope, people who love each other with contraception regularly commit a serious sin (it is committed deliberately), and so it is with everything that is seen as "sin" by the Catholic Church. Pope Paul VI was called "Pillen-Paule" in one of the first private radio stations (Radio Brenner) in the 80s. Even Ratzinger is unworldly in a time when there are sexually transmitted diseases that can cost your life. I feel particularly sorry for the Catholics because they are not getting any young, cosmopolitan popes who could perhaps carry out radical reforms, but rather senile old people who have no idea (or no longer) about real life.
I am very happy that, as a former Catholic who was very devout, my eyes were opened and that I have lost my faith. Since then, I've been living much more carefree and happier. Every Good Friday I think back to the past in particular, to the hypocritically grouchy mood in the Good Friday service. Good Friday has always been the worst day of the year for me. I was very happy every time it was over. Now Good Friday is a day like any other for me, on which I have just as much joy as on the other 364 days of the year.
I live a lot happier since I no longer believe in God.
What is important in life is not a belief in any God, but an honest, loving way of life with goals and joy in what makes one happy.
Anonymous, male, 23
because they hope.
Joachim Koßmann, 55
because they partially or completely renounce their human dignity
Björn Lindeiner, 38
We live in a time of non-simultaneity:
While we are technologically in the 21st century, our worldviews are still shaped by legends that are thousands of years old. This combination of the highest technical know-how and the most naive belief in children could have fatal consequences in the long run. We act like five-year-olds who have been given responsibility for a jumbo jet.
Manifesto of Evolutionary Humanism
Jesus says in Matthew 10:34 “Many believe that I came to bring peace. That is wrong, I am not bringing peace but war. "
In Luke 19:27, Jesus says "And now to my enemies who did not recognize me as their master: Bring them here and strangle them here before me!"
Anonymous, female, 30
I don't regret it. I envy them every now and then. But I cannot believe in something that seems illogical and incorrect to me.
P., female, 23
... and yet are not able to pass on love to other people. Because you may not have understood the basic idea of "God".
Anonymous, male, 41
more precisely: those who believe in the God who is mediated by the majority of Catholic priests. They all tell nonsense that is frightening. In fact, as it is unfortunately taught in the majority of cases, Christianity is actually a religion of fear: fear of hell, of the punishing father who condemns or redeems us, without any action on our part. The priests ramble about life after death as if they knew something. That one should prepare for life after death. That God is love in spite of everything! These brothers perverted the whole Christian religion. Because, of course, Christianity is a religion of bright joy: It says: You can be dead during your life and can rise again if you surrender to God's love. When you leave yourself Master Eckhart expressed this thought most beautifully with his birth of God. But he's officially a heretic. But there are other, real masters of the Christian faith that one unfortunately reads far too seldom. Professor Alfred Keller of the Jesuits thinks of that spontaneously, or Professor Gerd Häffner.
Anonymous, female, 30
Not. I envy them the confidence and security that faith gives them.
Anonymous, male, 41
not at all, I envy them.
Anonymous, male, 46
because for a long time in my life i believed myself that i believe. In the meantime, I am a staunch atheist and happier than I have ever been as a "believer". As this is not really an argument for or against religious belief. I am convinced that (too many - but by no means all) "believers" lose contact with the recognizable truth / reality too easily and I consider that, against the background of the possibilities of human reason, to be extremely unfortunate.
Not because I am of the opinion that everyone can decide for themselves what they believe in and everyone can form their own opinion.
... not, because in my opinion everyone can believe what they want and there is no reason to judge people by their belief.
not, because everyone has a right to believe in what he thinks is right. I also think that one should neither criticize others for their beliefs nor that one should pity them. You know exactly what you want and that's perfectly fine.
because people always need something to believe in something because otherwise people have no guidelines as to where they can live.
not, I respect her.
because you are not self-confident, because you need someone as a role model who can show you the way.
Daniela Zitzelsberger, 25
I do not do that! I admire people who have a deep and! have reflected belief. In other words, all those who sometimes have doubts, do not simply accept the requirements of religion, but rather actively concern themselves with God and their faith. These people are happy and content in ways that no one else ever gets
not .. I just think it's a shame that you don't know any better nowadays.
Well, why don't the believers wonder that the "omnipotent," "omniscient" and "all loving" god creates such flawed dangerous people and then punishes them for their misdeeds ...
Michael Bernast, 51
no, but i would like to leave you in your peace, if you would also be tolerant in public life with everyone who does not share your beliefs. basically every living being has to decide for itself from the earliest childhood how and with what means it would like to look at the world ...
Anonymous, male, 40
and making belief in something for which there is no evidence a virtue. The whole construction of Christianity, which makes "faith" the central criterion for salvation or damnation, is extremely absurd. "Believing" is not a virtue, it is not even an act. I cannot voluntarily decide at once something, for which I see just as much evidence as for the existence of unicorns, to hold to be true out of deepest inner conviction. Such a deep inner conviction is either there or not.
Anonymous, male, 20th century
because they believe in a brutal, selfish, selfish and sardistic God, and by that I don't mean Baal but Yahweh.
Niklas D., 16
It would be foolish to feel sorry for people just because of a different worldview; regret, or rather fear, begins where the freedom of another is restricted on the basis of some belief. Humanism (or atheism) can only attack religion verbally; they are not allowed to beat them with their own weapons. "Whoever does not believe in it must believe in it" must not become a principle !!!
Kathi G., 23
because I would like to be honest at this point and openly state that I have problems intellectually respecting someone who adheres to any form of religion. No offense, but: do you really believe all of this? In real ?? I sometimes feel as if all the believers just want to fool me, and the cameras behind all the plants and pictures are watching me .. Maybe I just can't understand why certain connections are not looked through .. because I can no longer imagine certain realizations never having won over the religions on this planet.
Stefan K., 28
I do not do that. But I regret those who believe religious leaders and waste valuable time, energy and material resources (money) on them. Surely the churches do some good things for the people. But that is only a fraction of what could be done with the sacrificed values.
Anonymous, male, 32
... only if this belief significantly affects their reason, their understanding, their intellectual curiosity and their ability to be human and tolerant. There are enough people for whom this is not the case (e.g. my Catholic wife). Why should you regret it? In any case, no one is so completely free from larger or smaller delusions, not even the atheist. For example, I firmly believe that the slowest line is always the line I am standing in front of. Unfortunately, there are also far too many people whose beliefs cloud their brains, e.g. creationists and other evolutionary deniers, as well as all the strange characters who equate religion with morality / ethics and claim that you cannot be a good person without religious belief. These people are spiritual arsonists and indeed pitiful. Not to mention all the religious fanatics who harass, abuse, murder, etc. in the name of their faith, but the victims of such people are even more unfortunate.
Gunter Veet, 67
not, because everyone has the right to make a fool of themselves as much and as often as they want.
People who believe in God have at least a future prospect, provided they believe in the goods of God ...
not if they do not submit to "false prophets" by doing so, but find support for their lives.
Not. . It is a crime to tell people (especially children) that they are lost without God, that they can only find salvation in "his" teaching. Every person must have the right to be able to decide voluntarily whether or not to believe in a higher power makes sense, and then to be able to live this conviction. I find the missionary zeal so uncomfortable. Everyone should be happy in their own way. But anyone who thinks they have to convince others to succumb to their interpretation of faith is simply presumptuous. All three major religious sects (Christianity, Judaism and Islam) claim they have the true faith. At least 2 of them must be wrong, because not all three can be right in their assumption at the same time, or they are all wrong. I think the latter is the most likely.
Thomas Bietz, 47
.. because they will most likely be disappointed (example Mother Theresa).
Peter Backfokus, 52
not, although they have to live with contradictions, which would be unbearable even to me.Not only are the Christian texts contradicting themselves, they also contradict in many ways our current knowledge of the nature of the world. The Old Testament is ethically far below our current level and the New Testament is far from being the Good News. Many social achievements, such as B. the equality of women, do not yet play a role, because the times were different back then. There is not much validity left if the Scriptures are stripped of their references to time. It is even intellectually dishonest to acknowledge today's positive social developments such as those we see. owe the Enlightenment to interpret in retrospect in the Bible, as Protestants especially like to do.
Jonathan Straub, 20
YES. It makes me so sad that people get on their knees before God and live in fear of him. Share the responsibility for their own life and their actions (including their "sins") with God. I also regret the invention of sin, which makes it possible to live as a sinner. For your sins will be forgiven you. I regret the cowardice of people who submit to God just because he may exist and have power.
Michael Rauch, 65
by no means. Everyone has the FREE WILL to understand themselves as believers or as non-believers. Ergo: Everyone can be happy according to their needs.
only if they have been so blinded by their religion, regardless of which, that they are no longer open to the thoughts and opinions of other people.
Claudia Martelli, 44
...Not. Lucky ones!
Siegfried Vocasek, 70
and run along without even having bothered to realize what exactly they believe in now
Anonymous, male, 40
Not. Sometimes I might even envy them. I only regret people who are unable to critically reflect on themselves and their convictions and who blindly or visually submit to authorities who spread absurdities as ultimate truths without any evidence.
Edgar Nönnig, 58
when it's their only hold and hope.
Alexander Krampe, 42
Most of the time. Often they are repugnant to me in their hypocrisy.
Anonymous, female, 28
I don't regret it because you chose it yourself. if you are happy with it please but i don't need it
Ines Blum, 28
I don't regret if it helps you to believe in him to master your life, please feel free to do so!
Norbert Schnitzler, 50
because they are attached to an illusion. But I regret even more people who do not believe in God and are bullied for it, have to accept professional and social disadvantages or even fear for their lives. That is why Judaism is my favorite monotheistic religion. You have to have a Jewish mother. Christianity and Islam proselytize and sometimes make others a head shorter. Lip service to freedom of religion only applies until you come to power yourself.
not, everyone has to get rid of it himself.
because my god gives you strength the strength comes from each one i compare that to sport i have practiced sport for many years myself the successes but also the defeats one has in one's hand only through the will in oneself one can achieve great things when you improve from time to time it is one of the most beautiful moments in life when you trust in god you give up on yourself and give the reins to someone else
Michael M., 33
@ Bernhard Riedl:
Comment on the biblical passage mentioned below, according to which God informed Moses that the sick are not allowed to step into the sanctuary because otherwise they could profane his holiness:
"That has nothing primarily to do with God or religion. Rather, the fact that before these phenomena, about which one simply knew nothing biologically at that time and which one therefore" feared ", leads to the exclusion from the area of holiness, which is otherwise These inexplicable phenomena, which are therefore excluded from holiness, apparently also include handicaps, which at that time were probably interpreted as divine punishment. Integrating them into the space of holiness was seen as a threat to this space and thus as a threat to existence.
This human view of things is changeable. "
They provide a very comprehensible justification for the fact that the Bible is a human, time-bound cultural product and not a divine, ever-valid revelation.
Hello Michael M.,
You are right about the form and even some of the content, but not about the intent of the statement. The biblical revelation is not without its flaws precisely because it has been handed down through people who were children of their time and, above all, people.
One of the funniest examples of such false reports in the Old Testament is the naming of the hare as a ruminant - because of its mumbling facial movements. And so so-called fundamentalists cannot be dissuaded from the fact that the rabbit of this species should strike because it is in the Bible.
As a young person, I very much appreciated the comparison of the Bible with a love letter: in a love letter there is often something that does not fully correspond with reality, but the message is not weakened in the least. And even with completely sincere love letters, there is always the case that the message does not get through. Love, even God's, can only advertise. She never forces.
Best regards and wishes
Michael M .:
They compare the Bible to a love letter. In the case of a love letter, however, I usually know the sender. Should I have doubts because some statements sound like her cheeky nephews rather than my beloved one, I should consider that they may have written the entire letter to play tricks on me and my beloved nothing to do with it and doesn't want to know anything about me.
If you now admit that the Bible is a human cultural product in terms of form and some of its content, we have the well-known problem of filtering out the "true" divine proposition from among all human tradition. And that is only possible if we apply our own moral standards to attribute everything that does not fit to the time. Accordingly, contrary to all Christian assurances, we cannot draw our values from the Bible, but apply them much more to them in order to "understand" them and God's will. Instead of giving a binding instruction, everything and everything is justified with the Bible.
That is why I prefer to see this font completely as a human product and include the person from whom it is supposed to be "inspired". Only in this way do we have the opportunity to come to values that are well-founded, because they are well-considered, based on consensus and yet have to be checked again and again, and of which no one can say they come from a higher power. Without God we are all human and nobody has leased the "truth". We then have to forego God's supposed love, but we still have each other for that.
Because there is no solid evidence for the existence of God, and they look like (sorry) idiots, a lunatic who says: "A little fairy follows me who gives me advice", one does not believe either ^^. For me the church is just an institution to live out capitalist ideas.
Anonymous, male, 36
because they are naive, clinging to straws that are not there. People who believe in God are deluded dreamers and liars!
... because they live in a cozy world and do not feel the cold that reigns in the world. Who do not notice how brutal the people are.
How can you march into a church every Sunday and not notice that a mother next door doesn't know how to feed her children? Or how the family man should explain to his children that in the future it will be the case that you have to go to the "table" to be full? Something like that is overlooked by the people who drive to church in their luxury cars every Sunday. Too bad about them.
John Paul, 39
and argue with the neighbor about the fact that his branches protrude into your garden ...
God is an enemy of disabled people
3. Moses 21, 16-24:
The Lord said to Moses: "... because if someone has a physical ailment, he must not approach, it is a blind or lame person, someone with a split or deformed nose, a broken leg or arm, a hunchback or too thin, one who has white spots in his eye ... or damaged testicles. The person afflicted with a physical ailment must not come near to offer the food of his God ... He should not approach the altar because he has a physical ailment do not desecrate my sanctuaries, for I am the Lord who sanctifies them! "
It is clearly clear that the Yahweh God, who is said to have created the universe, our planet and everything that crawls and flies on earth, is not perfect in his performance, because otherwise there would not be so many handicapped people, Humans (animals and plants) with minor and major ailments and blemishes. Here the own imperfection of the self-proclaimed God is clearly evident in his creatures. What applies to humans also applies to animals, because this "world creator" forbade the Jews to sacrifice deformed animals to him (see 3 Moses 21: 18-19).
Whoever pays homage to such a god pays homage to a malevolent demiurge who cannot endure his deformed creatures, who is anything but perfect. Comment by Bernhard Riedl:
The biblical writings offer many possibilities to misunderstand them, because many of the regulations from the cultic area appear to us today as bizarre in the best case - we know nothing of the background, of the causes. My professor in the Old Testament always chose the example of the "Law of Talion": an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. To us modern humans this appears to be a cruel law shaped by vengeance. In fact, however, it was the result of a criminal law reform that led to a more humane compensation: Whoever lost an eye or a tooth could no longer punish the other for it with death, but only reward the same for the same. Admittedly, that too is alien to us today, but back then it was a step forward in terms of humanity.
In connection with the above entry, it is noticeable that the author omitted an important passage from Lev 21 in the quote: Lev 21: 16-24. There it says in verse 22f: Yet he may eat of the food of his God, of the most holy and holy things, but not come to the curtain or approach the altar; for he has a defect and is not allowed to profane my holy objects; for I am the Lord who sanctified them.
Verse 22 at least makes it clear that God does not exclude disabled people from sharing what He has to give. The strict regulations regarding access to the altar have something to do with the temporal notions of purity, which - as e.g. the exclusion of wounded of all kinds shows - are by no means specifically hostile to the disabled, but are characterized by culturally anchored taboos. They are subject to body secretions of all kinds (blood, pus, semen, etc.). It has nothing primarily to do with God or religion. Rather, the fact that before these phenomena, about which one simply knew nothing biologically at that time and which one therefore "feared", leads to the exclusion from the area of holiness, which would otherwise have been contaminated according to the understanding of the time. These inexplicable phenomena, which are therefore excluded from holiness, obviously also include handicaps, which at that time were probably interpreted as divine punishment. Integrating them into the space of holiness was seen as a threat to this space and thus as a threat to existence.
This human view of things is changeable. A concrete example in this context is the abolished church custom that women previously had to be "blessed" after giving birth.
Much more decisive is therefore the V 22, which says something about the fact that man can perhaps set spatial limits, but cannot decide whether he belongs or does not belong to God. God clings to his creature whether disabled or not.
only if they suffer from it because they believe they are sinners or they must be sinners - then religion makes sick.
Anonymous, female, 20
because praying gives you neither food, drink nor clothes.
Andre Aengels, 28
... because they succumb to the mistaken belief that one only has to pray once a day and go to church on Sundays to make up for all sins.
Christoph Kuropka, 29
precisely because they give up responsibility, stop asking logically and critically, instead of understanding nature scientifically, accepting the cheap anthropological excuse of god. a lion is not evil, a little mouse is not dear, and even a pathogenic bacterium has not consciously chosen this existence and likewise the universe, life itself has no meaning, except that it just exists.
I also regret you for some obvious illogic and irrationality that you all swallow:
- you mostly adopt the religion that happens to be around you. how so?
- because the religions insult and war against each other, although they all represent the same thing: book, teaching, god, threaten through punishment and temptation through heavenly spheres.
- omnipotence is an absurd notion
- what exactly should god find in human life if we ourselves find it boring and banal?
- etc. pp
and last but not least:
I regret it, like every other person, who in other areas of life, allows himself to be seduced by such crystal clear, emotionally dependent and seductive teachings / thoughts and does not notice, indeed does not even allow it to be questioned, that these confuse him and his spirit, his reason . every junkie believes in his drug: "because it gives me so much." nothing else is the last answer of every believer to rational questions ...
Thomas Meier, 37
because they cannot face the given facts. You obviously need a non-existent being to be self-sufficient. Or maybe these people just lack confidence.
I don't regret it. For some there may be a stop. For me everyone can hold on where they want as long as they don't hurt anyone else with it.
Anonymous, male, 33
... because they don't educate their minds - they don't even try. You are traditionally blind. You stop at one point of view, wander around it and try to reinterpret the same outdated man-made construct over and over again and talk nicely to yourself and other people, but it doesn't get any better. It was never good.
This corset grips you from childhood, because it is indoctrinated from the beginning - depending on the culture (Christian, Islamic, etc.). This leads to the fact that you have to believe in these children's stories until you understand yourself and continue to educate yourself. Until then and even afterwards you have this nonsense in your brain and it takes a very long time to completely exorcise yourself.
Society is riddled with these patterns and you only notice that if you look at it from a distance. Many fail to do this, but the number is increasing. It's just easier to digest pre-chewed food, which means you lose your teeth.
History shows us what religions and gods do, only the blind do not see it and some do not want to see it.
Life as well as the world around us is change and not a rigid construct - nothing lasts forever.
Anonymous, male, 18th century
what do you believe in? you believe in what is not there
Anonymous, male, 23
I do not do that; I envy them.
... because they are not free to think and feel. Because they cannot feel what it means to take responsibility for themselves. Unconditionally believing people take the opportunity to gain knowledge, to gain insights and to have questions answered in a comprehensible way.
They cannot really experience life, the wonders of nature and the interrelationships of things because they attach given answers and viewpoints that exclude truth and reality.
In order to consolidate one's own belief - probably also before oneself - this belief is - conveniently - transferred to the whole of humanity, science is questioned or, best of all, forbidden and non-believers are assumed to be blameless and hopeless. Fanatics go even further and insinuate that all who do not follow their faith want to destroy it. *Help!*
This is hard to beat when it comes to audacity and arrogance!
And yet it is regrettable and understandable again: The human being in his - he is well aware of the inadequacy - is, apart from a few exceptions, a herd animal that is only too happy to follow someone who tells him where to go. He doesn't have to think like that for himself.
I am always amazed at how quickly people are ready to switch off their minds ...
Ulrich Wöss, 60
No, I envy you!
Anonymous, male, 38
how so? Everyone has to be happy in their own way ... or in other words ... everyone makes themselves as miserable as they can ...
..., you'd better believe in the flying spaghetti monster.
In the depths of my heart I hope for myself, my children and all of humanity that God, faith and religion will one day be a thing of the past.
Only in this way will there be a future for humanity.
I feel sorry for the people who blindly believe in God without having to deal with it, I believe that is the wrong solution. Can everyone decide for themselves how to believe in God? There are different interpretations of the Bible, how do you know which one is the right one? What would also be important to me that if you believe in God, what does that mean? Some say: "every conversation with God is a prayer" and others that one should not "overthrow" God, so to speak. I actually thought that God always has an open ear for people's problems ?!
Ephrem Syrian, 50
I agree with you ("I think it is also Christian to strive to live in the spirit of Christ.") And see no contradiction at all to what I have written.
@ Ephrem Syrians
Spiritual wellness is certainly cheaper elsewhere, I won't bet against it. But: quote. "IT is not Christian" to try personally to want to live a little in the spirit of Christ, "because this would contradict the spirit of Christ as the church teaches him."
Isn't that more of a dynamic process. It begins with the person feeling a longing for the longing to love Christ and ends with someone deciding to follow the cross radically (as described for you). This is a tough, rocky road that not all people (can) finish. Very few have gone all the way.
I think it is Christian too to strive to live in the Spirit of Christ. New every day.
Anonymous, male, 48
not, because they know what they are doing.
Wolfgang Manz, 50
Just like young people who have to pay into the statutory pension insurance although they know exactly that they can no longer meet today's requirements. !!!
Ephrem Syrian, 50
I cannot say whether "the believer has a less beautiful life" because that depends on the individual life of the individual believer at a given point in time and on what someone means by "beautiful". For someone who only believes something because he expects a better life from it, it should not matter whether what he believes (i.e. holds to be true) is actually true. The only thing that matters is that faith enables a more beautiful life. The conditions under which a placebo can work when you know that it is or could be a placebo is another matter. Faith would then be a holding to be true, regardless of whether the object of belief is held to be true. Logically absurd, but maybe not always psychologically impossible.
Conversely, if I really consider the object of my belief to be true, this object of my belief does not become untrue because this belief causes me sufferings, e.g. feelings of guilt.
Happiness, beauty, suffering, feelings of guilt, etc. are not criteria that can be used to determine the veracity of a belief.
hello Ephraem Syrians,
I see it this way now:
The believer has a less pleasant life because Christian teaching almost constantly makes him feel guilty.
We are to blame for Adam and Eve ...
we are to blame for acting against this or that commandment,
we are to blame because we have sex with each other but don't want children (anymore),
this series could be continued almost indefinitely.
The church has been assembling this guilt structure for 2 millennia as the situation requires.
So the current Pope has abolished limbo so me-nothing-you-nothing. Nice, is not it? (I didn't even know that there was such a thing, I either didn't learn religion in class or soon after I forgot, hell and purgatory are actually enough.)
Every child who died unbaptized before May 2007 is stuck in this limbo because the Church has taught so, and every child who died unbaptized in June 2007 is spared this by decree.
I regret in two ways all believing parents of unbaptized children who died before May 2007. You must have had a lifetime of guilt for not having your children baptized in addition to the pain of their child's death. And now Ratzinger comes along and simply says that it no longer exists. And the succinct reason: Many children are baptized no longer or later than before.
Ratzinger thus bends the Christian faith according to the situation according to a modular system. Limbo in the trash can. The lives of the parents of these children could have been more happy without this building block of limbo or, quite simply, without faith.
Why not put celibacy in the trash, too. If, as the newspaper said yesterday, a former Protestant pastor who became a Catholic is now allowed to remain married as a Catholic pastor with Ratzinger's approval, what about the guilt feelings of the Catholic priests who have to live their relationship in secret? What about the guilt feelings of women who have a relationship and possibly children with the priests? And what about the children's feelings from these relationships? Tell me something about it, Mr. Ratzinger! Celibacy in the trash!
Ätsch, your own fault because you are a believer, or your own fault because you were not Protestant before! That can not be!
So if I believe in God and live according to the rules of the Christian Church, but after my death there is nothing left (which, as a former devout Catholic, I am now absolutely convinced of), then I have wasted a lot of time in my life senselessly with feelings of guilt, that I would otherwise have enjoyed.
So now I feel sorry for people who believe in God.
As a student, I saw a t-shirt in a Munich shop window with a text satirizing the various religions. The sentence that concerned Christians was: "The Christian says: I'm guilty."
Unfortunately I didn't buy it back then.
You can also be a good person without believing in a religion!
Without religions, the world would be far more peaceful. Many wars are or have been justified with reference to the defense of the faith or as a fight against the unbelievers.
What kind of religions are they, what kind of gods are they, in whose name countless people are slaughtered every day? Limitless hatred often arises from different religions. Just think of Northern Ireland or ex-Yugoslavia, for example.
In the period from World War II until today there was only 14 days of no war worldwide (!!!!!!)! And that (almost) only because of the "GOD" comment:
It is true that violence has often been used in the name of religions throughout history. That is clearly to be condemned! But today wars are about economic and political power interests, not about God. I remember how vehemently Pope John Paul II spoke out against the Iraq war and how many efforts are being made by the Christian churches for a peaceful future.
Ephrem Syrian, 50
On this page the question was asked: "And from a rationalist point of view: What does the believer have to lose? Should he have been subjected to a pious illusion, he will never know, while the non-believer will never experience the comforting feeling of being right."
That is the rationalism of gambling: Those who do not bet on the "cross" (God) are acting irrationally. But what is actually at stake?
1. The agnostic (unbeliever) who bet on the existence of God runs the risk of becoming stupid because he puts the practical consequences of his assumption over their insight. It doesn't matter to him, but it doesn't have to be.
2. Faith (the bet on the existence of God) is not enough in Christianity: Christian God demands the obedience of faith in the sense of an inseparable unity of faith and work. The whole life of the Christian should be one worship. Ideally, the Christian follows the path of radical following Christ. This is certainly not fun (the real emergency here is the crucifixion) and is associated with considerable renunciation: "Dare to go with fear and trembling on the way to your salvation with God" (Phil 2:12). Here, as is so often the case with Paul, every word is important: It is a risk, you need courage, even a great deal of courage ("fear and trembling") to set out on the path to your own salvation with God - on the _way_ to salvation, because this salvation does not just fall to you. Anyone who is not afraid and does not tremble here has not understood the seriousness of the challenge and the difficulty of the task (following Christ) and has mistaken Christianity for a feel-good program. The dangers of egocentric addictions ("sins"), such as wanted desires ("You shall not desire!" Rom. 7: 7), i.e. wanting to have in contrast to wanting to give something, are numerous; this is the normal human condition, so not so easy to turn off, but associated with considerable (negative) stress and constant failure (failures). The decision to follow Christ so inevitably has the consequence that it causes such a Christian to suffer continuously, just as joy AND thirst for action are characteristics of the Christian who is happy about what he is allowed to be and therefore has to act for others, even if he prefers would remain comfortably seated in his chair. Those who do not suffer are on the wrong side: those who are witnessed by the Spirit of God as a child of God and suffer with them will be glorified as well (Romans 8:17). Those who are well cannot belong to God because the opposition between God and the world (as it is) is so powerful. In the awareness of constant absence (failure, "sinning"), the state of "deep inner peace" will certainly not be the rule, but rather another symptom of egocentric addiction ("sin"), e.g. complacency, indolence, indifference (dem Suffering and the unhealthy distance of others as well as one's own selfishness) and comfort. So what is actually at stake for the potential believer? Nothing less than his life - nothing less than that! Anything else would be a trivialization and trivialization of the Christian way.
It is not Christian to "endeavor personally to live a little in the Spirit of Jesus Christ" because that would contradict the Spirit of Christ as taught by the Church. Each "a little" or "a little bit", as non-binding as it is seductive or apparently modest, misses the point. The demand of the biblical Jesus is radical here: "Go, sell everything you have and give it to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven - and come and follow me" (Mk 10:21). That and nothing less should be striven for, even if people are too weak to achieve this goal. "Being nice" (a little like being a Christian) is not a Christian category (object lesson can be used here for the excellent film "The 1st Gospel - Matthew" [original: "Il Vangelo secondo Matteo"] by the Italian director Pier Paolo Pasolini the year 1964). Christian life and civil life in prosperity and security should then be mutually exclusive.
Wellness is cheaper, easier and better to get from others. Any bet.
since they have not yet found faith in themselves.
Rene Göckel, 57
because they cannot free themselves from the fairy tale world that was given to them as children. They're wasting the one life they have.
Anonymous, female, 16
no, I also admire people who believe in God. Every time I go to church and see the people who like to go there, I am glad that the church is there. I couldn't imagine being a strict believer and living my life according to God. But I admire the people who do it.
Anonymous, male, 50
because they don't live life intensely and consciously. To grapple with the injustice and imperfection of the world - that is the art of life. Believing in pious sayings and explaining everything with God is a very simple, primitive way of life and an escape from reality. You have to be very simple-minded to think of sayings like "God's test" or even better: God created the world and thus also us, but he is not responsible for our actions! "What ridiculous sayings!
God created the world, is supposedly omnipotent - but he cannot influence the suffering on earth. You have to be very weak or needy in order not to recognize that belief is nothing more than a human construct that has been adapted to reality. We attribute the good to God - he cannot influence the bad. Sure, you can make life easy for yourself!
Anonymous, female, 23
no, I deeply admire her. I often envy them for this hold and this meaning that faith can give their lives.
Alexander May, 17
People who cling to a religion or belief are mentally weak. They are satisfied with the answer that God exists and never question this problem. Our history, and especially the history of Germany, showed us very clearly what can happen if a system is not questioned, but accepted submissively. People from thousands of years ago, oh only hundreds of years ago, tried to interpret all sorts of things by tracing the answer back to God. This tradition continued out of fear, out of fear of the wrath of God or fear of the afterlife or whatever you believers fear and still exists in such a modern society. Although science revealed more to us than belief could ever accomplish, belief persists. However, this parted out of sheer fear. For fear God would punish me if I don't believe in him. That fear is simply stupid. So many sacrifices were made by faith and each carried out by man and not by God. So many victims of disease, epidemics and natural disasters. And you have God in answer. It's so ridiculous that it's hard to believe.
Believers are spiritually weak who hold on to a lie in order not to fall because they have not yet learned to walk upright.
... because they obviously can't quite tell the difference between reality and fantasy; they are victims of their own inadequacy, i.e. that of their thinking apparatus.
... because they allow them to be dominated by mere guesswork.
Sergey Kartamyshev, 21
because they are afraid that they don't need. They are afraid to look critically at what their parents and grandparents, their acquaintances and friends, their teachers and colleagues say to them.
Anonymous, male, 35
because they might as well worship a flying spaghetti monster, and their beliefs distract them from themselves more than it gives them the ability to discern. Whoever forbids eating from the tree of knowledge forbids people to self-knowledge.
... because they indulge in an illusion.
... because they usually allow themselves to be put off to a "better beyond" instead of making the world a little better on this side.
... because they allow themselves to be overwhelmed with various prohibitions that run counter to human needs
... because they are easier to manipulate.
... because they have often not learned to use their understanding "without the guidance of someone else" (Kant)
... because they let themselves be persuaded to live in "sin" all the time and let themselves be scared of "hell".
... because money is pulled out of their pockets by means of church tax, so their belief in God is being misused to finance some church princes for their luxury life.
Blanka Montoya, 24
I regret people who believe in God because they have either never tried or given up to relativize their psyche and to reflect on the fact that they have fallen into the lies of a group of people who can only give their testimony for all their claims. and whoever blindly trusts people plagued by longing and fear with their penchant for mystification when they report on revelations and personal experiences of God, is a fool. You should love your fellow men, but you shouldn't believe any nonsense. People will find a way to you and how you can make your peace with the fact of the outward senselessness and the observation and certainty of how nature works and why we are not afraid of something that we only need through a religious talk about carrots and sticks Being painted in the head.
S.R., male, 27
because they are simply too weak and helpless to grab themselves by the collar and determine their path.They beg for support and support without realizing that each of them is the greatest support myself.
Ingo Jäckels, 29
... as a being that is only there for those who claim to have a right to an interview. Because these are the furthest away from God.
Anonymous, male, 18th century
I do not do that! On the contrary!
Tamara General, 19
I feel sorry for people who don't believe in god ...
... because they are basically very poor people ... they are people who do not believe in themselves and therefore also cannot believe in others ... belief starts with self-acceptance .. when I do not respect myself and I don't understand why I'm the way I am ... then I can't believe in anyone I can't even see with my bare eyes ..... later God will meet us in other people too, I have it myself experienced ...
Lan Duong, 34
people who believe in god will walk from god
Anonymous, female, 13th century
I find that extremely nonsensical, because although I don't believe in him myself, I can imagine that even if he were invented, he could give you strength in difficult situations. You can talk to him anytime, anywhere and about anything.
Anonymous, female, 26
Totally wrong. But belief alone does not make this world better.
I do not understand that. these people do nothing to anyone, do not want to convert anyone. Even if you were to claim that these people are lying to themselves, you should let them live and try to understand and understand their points of view. you don't have to join them right away.
for me, god and the bible do not necessarily belong together.
Chaled Osman, 39
and at the same time make your way more difficult.
Anonymous, female, 42
no, I do not regret people who believe in something or those who have saved themselves from it. The main thing is that it uses. And if someone believes in their toaster and it helps, let them do it!
Benjamin R., 26
Why should one feel sorry for someone who voluntarily enters into bondage? Who lets others (including people who have been dead for thousands of years) decide what is true and what is wrong, what to do and what not to do? I don't regret these people, basically I don't care what someone believes or doesn't believe in and who controls them. But I despise them when they try to impose rules of conduct on other people based on their dogmatics. For an atheist everything is profane and therefore he must also have the legal and moral right to speak, write, draw and laugh about things that are "sacred" to another person, such as something profane. Every religious person has the right to deny reality, but he must not force others to treat his fairy tales with respect. And by the way: What is a belief worth that can be shaken by criticism or ridicule?
Anonymous, male, 22
not, it's your own fault;)
From a pragmatic point of view, in many cases a reasonably firm belief (in whatever) will compensate for the limitation of rational thinking.
God God, 34
Anon Nym, male, 14th century
and try to convert one, claim that other religions are "wrong", feel attacked by books like "Da Vinci Code" and make everything that does not suit them bad. otherwise everyone should believe what they want.
Ulli Becker, 41
I regret people who are sure that the guy in front - the one with the flowing robe with his "Ora et lobora" chant - who can tell them what God wants from them! - Poor fools - have given up their responsibility, forfeited their right to true freedom.
Robert H., 32
<<Die Aussage "Ich glaube an Gott, den Schöpfer des Himmels und der Erde" ist Ausdruck des Vertrauens in einen Sinn und ein Ziel der Schöpfung,..>>
Well, maybe the universe just seems to have a goal. Have you ever thought about it? Maybe it just seems to YOU as if a god created everything, but in reality everything happens without God. Evolution has no direction. But due to the constant alternation between selection and mutation and renewed selection, the system looks from the outside as if it were more or less controlled. And believers quickly fall for it and see a god behind it. That also happened to the people in the Holy Land back then, and that's how all the Bible fairy tales came about.
Horst M. Paffen, 57
Every thinking person asks the existential question about himself. It aims at his own identity and the meaning of his own life. Even if one should succeed in experiencing oneself in a completely fulfilled life - whatever the individual may mean by that - the challenge of one's own death always remains present. One possibility is to come to terms with the inevitable, to understand death as an endless and dreamless sleep. The Christian message shows another possibility in the trusting hope that leads death out of finitude into infinity in faith in the risen One. Certainly the believer has no certainty, but he has a perspective for the future and in the now. And from a rationalist point of view: what does the believer have to lose? Should he have fallen victim to a pious illusion, he will never know, while the non-believer will never experience the comforting feeling of being right.
Last year, after more than 40 years, I rediscovered Christianity for myself and have been reconciled (after leaving the Catholic Church). Since then, I have no longer felt the knowledge of my coming end as a burden. But please don't think of me as a fool: I have no illusions that my life-sustaining body systems will generate enough fear and suffering when I die that I try to stay alive, even if it is in vain in the last "fight".
So no one needs me to regret that I believe in God, but one can rejoice with me about it. I also live in deep inner peace with my church. We must not forget that there are such and such everywhere, and the higher one climbs, the thinner the air becomes, with all the consequences that a lack of oxygen can cause. But let's be honest: do we behave ourselves always and everywhere in the way we consider desirable? I have now met many Christians, and they are extremely nice people, precisely because they try personally to live a little in the spirit of Jesus Christ. Look more at the people in everyday gray and less at the colorfully clad - although there are really nice ones too.
I warmly greet all ladies and gentlemen from the team that entrusts these pages, especially Mr. Riedl.
Ava Avatar, Jan.
Yes, it was already. I feel sorry for people who believe in God. Whether they are intellectually poor or cannot live without this psychological stop.
The problem is that "this" God, whom you draw yourselves into paradise, only exists in your imagination.
And if there is, just assumed, a God, it is potentially so unsatisfactory that we could rather speak with stones.
Then God is NOT A MAN WITH A BEARD !!!!! I deeply detest this idea.
If so, then God is a power. And even less, it is just as much as gravity, for example. And there you have it.
This is so unsatisfactory physically and mentally that it would be sick to worship gravity. Yes, but thousands do it ...
Silvia Haeske, 40
Regarding the last sentence of the comment: "... the rejection of the existence of God is ultimately an expression of the randomness and meaninglessness of life."
I would like to express myself as follows: Why should life be meaningless if it consists only of coincidences? if someone does not believe in God, he will believe in himself, in the system or other things. It's not just belief in God that makes sense! There are other things that give meaning to life - if only it's evolution! And coincidences are the ups and downs (or challenges) of life!
Anonymous, female, 16
..because in my eyes they are too weak to stand on their own. I don't need anyone to guide me, I am myself. And I have lived without God my whole life and will continue to do so. What benefit do people get from believing in him? I have friends who are firm and convinced (convinced .. of what ?!) Christians. They are in their church every weekend. I think it's a waste of time.
Do people believe in such a thing because they are afraid of hell? Because they are afraid of not going to heaven? I'm not afraid of it because I don't believe in heaven and hell. For me, science is the only logical thing that many should recognize!
Believers say that God is all good and all powerful. Then why is there so much suffering on earth? If he does not want to help, he is not all-kind, if he cannot, he is not omnipotent!
My opinion is: God did not create man, but God!
.. you should think about this sentence a few times !! Comment:
Indeed, that is the crucial question: Did God create man or man God? No science can do the answer to this question for humans. The believer will recognize traces of God in creation, the non-believer will recognize chance and the law of becoming and passing away. The statement "I believe in God, the creator of heaven and earth" is an expression of trust in a meaning and a goal of creation, the rejection of the existence of God ultimately an expression of the randomness and meaninglessness of life.
Anonymous, female, 16
I think it should be up to everyone to believe in God or not ...
Anonymous, female, 18th century
... not really. At least - as a rule - not because of their beliefs. If there is one thing I regret, it is more the way they believe and how they live their beliefs.
I think that every person should decide for themselves personally how they believe or not. I respect when someone lives their life just by faith.
But since I respect that they believe in God, I also want my opinion to be respected. Unfortunately, the understanding of those communities who so often emphasize their tolerance is over very quickly. As long as I am interested in your community and willing to get involved, I am welcome. But as soon as I say my opinion, contradict it, it shows a completely different side.
I only regret people who are truly convinced that they are something better because of their belief.
Anonymous, male, 21
I wouldn't regret to say that the Bible was written by people and that by men, why would they call him God and nothing else, there are still many things like zbs. Virgin Mary gave birth to her child or why should sexual things be a sin when he has already given us this opportunity. I don't want to think negatively about people who think of God in general, there are also very good things in the Bible, for example. the ten commandments in part! read the book A New Beginning by Esther and Jerry Hicks and compare it with the Bible and you will find that this book is much more realistic
well ... sorry ... I can't say ...
everyone should live as he / she wants ..
I do not regret all people who believe in God only those who orient their whole life according to their faith and forget to live in the process. One cannot base one's whole life on one idea.
No, pity would be better. It is only natural that people are looking for something bigger. Unfortunately it is not so easy to find a way to get to the truth. They stop and are satisfied with the lessons the western world has to offer.
Anonymous, female, 18th century
not because everyone has to find meaning in life for themselves. Even if the motives for believing in God can mostly be questioned.
Jenjan Bertikud, 36
... because they only seem to believe in God to give meaning to their lives. But life may already have another meaning that has just not yet been recognized, a personal one.
I think it's a shame that these people don't have enough confidence in themselves to find meaning in their lives on their own. Even the search for a meaning in life, i.e. the path to the goal, could make human life meaningful.
Some of the people who believe in God only do so in order not to have to search for goals themselves. God or the church already give some guidelines and through these guidelines induce blind trust ...
For this reason I pity those people who are stuck in their faith, follow blindly and see themselves unable to search for an immanent meaning.
For all those who believe in God without seeing him as the absolute meaning in life, I am happy. Unfortunately, I cannot share this view.
Anonymous, male, 17th century
Why should I feel sorry for such people?
God gives support to many people without whom their life would not make sense. So I don't know why I should feel sorry for such people.
Anonymous, female, 17
Because there is no such thing as God. So how can one naively orient one's whole life according to a book and lead a "godly" life with the hope of being granted eternal bliss afterwards. You believe in something for which there is no evidence, yes in something that has even been refuted by a number of sciences. Of course, humans are descended from apes, and Adam and Eve were certainly not the first humans on this planet. So how can you just surrender to something that is so obviously wrong? Live your life people. My opinion.
Anonymous, male, 18th century
Because maybe they really don't see any other purpose in life than God, because they have nothing else.
Perhaps they have also taken ready-made opinions from family or friends.
So (some) believers in God are either severely manically depressed people or not independent, enlightened individuals.
Anonymous, male, 19th century
Because they are under an illusion. I mean, which rational person can seriously believe that a person can march across the water without aids ?!
because they are pitiful.
Anonymous, male, 18th century
by no means.
Anonymous, male, 18th century
not ... each his own ...
J. B., female, 18
... I do not do! Everyone has the right to form their own opinion !!
Joshua Baderborn, 33
but did not understand him.
Because they feel that they belong to a God who is clearly described in the Bible as a malevolent being. He advocates slavery, the death penalty, murder, cruelty to animals (burn victims) and disregards the rights of women. His most influential believers, Jesus and the apostles, all (except one) died a cruel death. More people were killed in God's name than under Hitler and Stalin combined. Christians actually worship an evil, negative God.
Gisela Wisskirchen, 62
I believe that God also holds in his hands people who cannot or do not want to believe! Many just do the will of God without knowing it. And I think that's enough for him.
Veronika Fritsche, 28
It is bad that Christians dare to look down on atheists as if they were pitiful fellow men. and Christians are also so convinced that something will come after this life and that the poor atheists miss it !!!!
Depends on. There are some of them that I even admire. I've also seen some preachers who preached with passion and energy. They were more like entertainers (otherwise nobody would listen). Even if I don't necessarily agree with them, their sermons are fascinating, probably because I would also like to have the talent to inspire people so much. I only pity the Christians who are also pitiful. In my opinion everyone can believe what they think is right (with the exception of a few sects or extremist views) and if one is somewhat tolerant.
Anonymous, male, 17th century
no i don't, i think it's good when people have something that they can believe in and that gives them hope.
Sven Anderson, 32
... and no longer of themselves who are afraid of God, the sufferings, because they think that this is God's will, to whom God is more important than their fellow men.
I regret people who believe in the (Christian) God, as this is extremely beneficial to the dumbing down of people. For example, what about "God's Word" (laughs), the Bible? There are so many contradictions in it that one can only shake one's head that people believe that the Bible work was initiated and created by an almighty being ("God"). How is that e.g. in Genesis 1, 25-27 and Genesis 2, 18-19 ?! Once man is created AFTER the animals - and once the animals AFTER man. This is close to the weak and just funny to see - nothing else.
Lars S., 35
Sometimes those pious are to be envied, whose world seems so much simpler than that of the "free spirit". But their places of retreat are becoming smaller, their traditional morals have long since reached their limits, their cosmology has been merely metaphorical in character for centuries. In view of the numerous problems I am happy to be able to face these problems suddenly - because I am supported on a crutch that no longer provides support.Safe: The feeling of security in like-minded groups, especially when they look to the hereafter, gives many hope that the vicissitudes of the world passed over them, left them unharmed. And do not notice that their house has long since lacked its roof.
Anonymous, male, 34
... because it is at most a flow of energy in one's own body that is stylized as "God" by religious people ... love also has its biochemistry, and there is nothing more than love. One can let go of the flow of energy, be free and thus have very happy experiences without having to ascribe it to a "foreign" entity. Ultimately, religious people are afraid of their own ability to love, which they have to deny themselves and ascribe to "God". A classic problem of mental immaturity and dependent thinking. People are individuals. But that doesn't mean they have to feel lonely or unsecured. I also feel that I am in good hands, in life. And last but not least, I don't need God because I am ultimately "God" myself. And every person I meet is also "God". And God takes "God" from all people who believe in him. Freedom and the happiness that goes with it can be that simple. With myself, also in the neighbor and completely without "him", because in the end we are all "he". Deeply experienced moods such as mindfulness and contemplation are just human. God is unnecessary hocus-pocus, which at most creates problems such as self-alienation and dissociation. When I call "God" God, I disconnect him from me. The ego then becomes godless and has to constantly seek the God of whom it has been robbed or whom it has denied itself. Language is not free from logic and has a decisive influence on experience. Whoever brings God "into the house" gets quite a cramp on all levels: mentally, emotionally, and also physically. Self-contradictory divides ... and not least because of this and again and again: People are SELF!
not just the people who believe in YOUR God.
for they have recognized that "something" exists beyond their comprehension, but then did not know what to do better than to disguise "it" in symbols such as the term 'God' or attributes such as 'eternal' or 'omnipotent'. These symbols are man-made, so understandable, so wrong.
Should one worship the "incomprehensible"? I don't see anything for it, but also nothing that speaks against it. If so, the use of comprehensible structures like the scriptures, the use of terms in general, would be mere idolatry. The Jews' belief in Yahweh (one of thousands of tribal religions) and the hope of discipleship of Jesus (one of millions of self-appointed redeemers) have as much in common with what they supposedly make available as two pounds of hay with the number zero.
A veneration of the "incomprehensible" could, if at all, only be expressed by explicitly refusing to hold any cultural sediments in front of him as masks. The only attitude that I can accept as a true engagement with the "extra-conceptual" is the fundamental rejection of every religion and thus also of every so-called God.
You can call it radical mysticism, or radical atheism.
why are terms wrong when trying to express something "incomprehensible"? Here the Old Testament ban on images says that nothing carved, no picture of God may be made. Behind this stands the rejection of idolatry, which is expressed in the worship of self-made things. It is similar with terms, they are not God themselves, but can certainly express something of longing and premonition - and in this sense: knowledge. It is similar with the terms good, beautiful or love. What I'm more interested in: What gives you stability and orientation or do you consider this to be dispensable in an uncertain life?
Regarding your reply to my contribution to the "incomprehensible": I recognize that religious products (writings, images, rituals, etc.) can be attempts to express approximations to the "unconditional". But I have no sympathy for the impulse to express these approximations.
You seem to me to use an image like trying to describe a circular area by a series of tangents on its perimeter. Many religions and philosophies have drawn many tangents and the sad result has practically always been that all attention has been focused on the resulting polygons - which seldom enough have remained convex.
The question of support and orientation is downright antagonistic to the question of "God", as you call it. "Absolute addiction," as one of your guilds called it, is a fundamentally negative experience. Religions that try to alleviate dependency by projecting understandable structures onto the "otherworldly" are, in my view, not an approach to the "sacred", but a defense against it.
Now I by no means deny that such a defense is possible. I just find it, as I said, regrettable because I definitely prefer the aforementioned fundamentally negative experience.
Rene Goll, 78
Yes (self deception)
Silvia Haeske, 40
who are fanatics (like Jehovah's Witnesses) strictly follow the Bible - but I think the message is different
Jürgen Eckardt, 34
I do not regret as much as I do not regret those who believe in monsters or aliens.
Ilona Oellers, 31
Not!!! I'm more happy about it because I think that believing in God can give life a hold and meaning. Sometimes I'm a little jealous because I have the feeling that some things could be easier with a firm belief.
since the christian god is blind faith in my eyes. I smell Christians for miles because of their aura ... I have nothing against them, but I have the feeling that they are wrapped in cotton wool and perceive the world even more unreally than we do with our senses.
Dear Karin, dear female 34,
I find that Christians in particular are able to take responsibility for their lives and the lives of others. By trying, for example, to observe the commandment to love one's neighbor, i.e. not to hurt other people, to approach other people who need help, etc., they try to lead a responsible life. Unfortunately, it doesn't always work. (Now I come to the sins) When I pray in the evening and think about my day again before God, I often notice that I have missed my goal. Often, out of antipathy or indolence, I don't approach people who are waiting. But these sins don't scare me. Faith doesn't scare me at all. It's more of an incentive to do better the next day.
I hope that I have helped you to feel sorry for people who no longer believe and would like to expressly emphasize that non-Christians are also able to lead an independent life.
because they miss out on a lot. some lose sight of reality and blame god for wrong (or not made) decisions.
in my opinion, people who believe in god are simply dependent and cannot take responsibility for their own lives.
or you are looking for a scapegoat for what went wrong in your life or in the world .... "god wanted it that way ...!"
Anonymous, female, 34
My experience speaking with Christians is that they don't even know the Bible. I have no respect for such people, to whom, as a non-Christian, I first have to explain their own religion. If you quote the Old Testament, they will tell you that they don't think it's great themselves, but that the New Testament is so great. If you come up with the New Testament, "You women submit to men. So please the Lord.", Then again it is not correct. If you arrive with the Sermon on the Mount, which is supposed to be so great, then with Christians you will very quickly reach your limits when it comes to practical implementation. "What are you looking for the splinter in the other's eyes, don't you see the bar in your own face?"
Furthermore, these people have a panic fear that they could commit a "sin" and later have to answer to their creator. This religion is scary! Unfortunately, you don't even get a file inspection in your own sin register. Who knows, maybe there will be something that will be used against them ...
Heinz Tischberger, 38
by no means. I also consider the church an institution worthy of support, even if I do not believe in its teachings.
Anonymous, female, 15
they are too weak to recognize that god is a human invention that helps the weak to convince themselves of their innocence. people who believe in god lose faith in themselves ... SINCE YOUR OWN GODS !!! god is just an excuse for everything that you christians do wrong !!!
Alexander Kessler, 26
because they cannot muster the strength to face the problems of reality and to free themselves from the spiritual slavery of religion.
Michael M. P. Wittmann, 47
when they see this belief as a fetter. Gospel is GLAD NEWS. Nevertheless, many Christians - including pastors and the like - run around like musty depressives who have been coffed up.
Lennard Foxxey, 28
... I'm sorry for them. did you know, you so-called believers in God, that your supervisors have sent more people to their deaths than adolf hitler! There is no one or 12 or more gods. That's the reality. to believe is only to believe in you.
That doesn't quite apply. I find it terrible when people are so very fanatical that they no longer tolerate other opinions and would thus kill for their beliefs. That is really not justifiable.
I feel sorry for people who don't believe in God because they are happy with their religion.
Anonymous, female, 20
I don't regret her, I envy her.
Bettina Kaeber, 19
... because I think that people cannot cope with their lives and look for help that they can only find in God. The thought that one could possibly be to blame for one's own life seems so terrible for some people that they prefer to look for a God to whom they blame and claim that God does it for them, he / she guides me and shows me the right way. Then you are not to blame if something goes wrong, after all, God has guided you. ... just pitiful.
Anonymous, male, 64
Not. However, I expect them not to regret me either.
Peter Peteucus, 17th
a little, because they are too lazy to form an image for themselves and are far too easily influenced. Nevertheless, there are people whom it helps and for them belief is also good.
Max Noak, 15
because they give up their minds. I think after Nietzsche and other heads of the alleged human-spiritual awakening, as it is often called, it has become clear after a long critical thinking that the very thesis formulated before is in itself nonsense. Because even the great Thomas Aquinas knew that at some point there will be problems if one only thinks theosophically, for him faith and reason belong closely together. Because to believe in God is not "unreasonable" how many spirits want to say to me after superficial reflection, because they mean God, or rather their small-minded conception of God, is not acceptable by today's, that is, their current standards, because they are characterized by specific Worldviews and scientific research that explained the world. These arguments are based on an earlier belief in children, which was mostly characterized by ignorance, in a father who takes care of the world and does not want evil. Of course, sooner or later this view dissolves when the world is examined more closely, because this "image of God" becomes untenable through mere reflection.
As I said, it is presumptuous and very limited thinking when people want to have the Christian faith out of joint with an infantile image of God, and think it has succeeded with the “why is there so much suffering?” Explanation. Rather, I think a basic problem of the alleged "free spirit" of our time presents itself, one avoids thinking further, the thinking has been set limits by excessive self-overestimation of people, they are not recognized as such. If you think you can undermine religion through science, as GDR atheists want to do, for example in the youth consecration book Weltall, Erd, Mensch, for example by saying people took God to explain lightning, for example, then you lever, that is, you try to lever , one does not really cancel out the basic material of philosophy. Because the times in which we live show one thing, a mere appeal to the "ratio" of the human being on the basis of the natural sciences is impossible, because at some point we come across the questions that concern philosophy, for example the question of "how" Existence etc. But we don't want to get out of hand, I just want to say that it is no longer possible to exalt oneself with the old lyres, because Nietzsche's explanations have lost their hold because they do not provide any answers and will never provide them. That was only a fraction of what I want to and can say, due to the occupation with the very plausible philosophy of Thomas von Aquin and Aristotle, like Kant, in order to perhaps broaden the narrow horizons of the thinking of some critics, because that is, to know exactly The origin of the Judeo-Christian way of thinking, one suddenly sees God as a logical part of the world, to label him as the long-bearded do-gooder is neither the content of the Bible nor the content of Christian philosophy, let us leave the thinking according to limited models of mere knowledge to natural religions or atheism.
Stefanie Cramer, 36
NEVER! On the contrary. In my opinion, handing over responsibility to a higher power does not contradict one's own responsibility. Two years of confirmation lessons at the age of 12 let me see nothing more in the Bible than a book that I want to make a film ... but I probably just didn't understand anything.
Anonymous, male, 34
No. Serves them right, they can know.
Ursula Mohr, 30
No, I think it's good when you have faith and can trust.
Anonymous, male, 18th century
If faith and religiosity are the individual model for a person's life out of a certain reflection and free decision, then I have no reason to regret such a person. I do not share or understand many life plans, but I accept them anyway. I do not have the need to approach the world and people to my ideas, my missionary instinct is truly limited.
I only regret people who were unlucky enough to live in a society in which free decision-making and reflection on the basis of religion are not possible without endangering their own existence. It doesn't matter whether they are states, tribes or fanatical religious families.
because the questions they ask are utterly stupid. E.g.> Why does God not answer our prayers "or" Why do my wishes go that I do not pray to God in fulfillment "
I can answer these questions to them:
God would fulfill all of our dreams and wishes that life would have no purpose. Life consists of problems, we have to deal with these problems on our own. Steal from yourselves a life without problems, responsibilities and without feelings.
> TERRIBLE OR <
..., since most religious statements can hardly be surpassed in terms of ridiculousness, logical fallacies and simply ignorance. Religions can neither give conclusive answers to the existential questions of life (which for many may surely be the main reason for belief), nor does a rational person need religion as a moral control body.
For the simpler individuals among us, the morals of Christianity may be reason enough to cling to the Church, and after all no one can forbid them to do so. But who is really for himself
can claim to be capable of rational thinking, can never be sane if he seriously accepts the Christian ideas about the existential things of life.
It is simply a mistake to assume that the existence of a god is an answer to the question of the origin of the universe - the simple question of the origin of God himself exposes this as a sham answer. Most Christians will likely answer by saying that God does not NEED an origin and has always been there - is this ANY WAY a more conclusive answer than simply assuming that the universe itself DOES NOT NEED an origin? Since we are part of the universe we can only say something about the laws of nature that rule within, e.g. that everything has an origin. It is not logical to assume that the universe as a whole must behave in the same way.
The reasons for the success of religions are obvious: for most people it is enough to get a SATISFACTORY answer to questions like the origin of man rather than looking for the TRUE answers, even if they may not sound in the least pleasant.It is simply a wishful thinking of irrational (if at all) thinking people who do not want or cannot accept that they will die one day and that their life NEEDS no meaning, which allows religions to survive - who says that one does not find the meaning of one's own life for oneself can define? I don't need a supernatural being that tells me that I have to get rid of my "sins".
People seem to be terrified of death and therefore long for eternal life. You want to know what it's like not to live? You haven't lived before! Think of what it was like before you were born, this is what your death looks like.
No wonder that the most simple-minded people and those who have nothing fall victim to religion. When I think of Christianity, I think of old men in clothes who splash people with water because their "unearthly nature" demands it - nothing but a bunch of madmen with schizophrenic delusions about almighty beings, eternal life and people walking on water. .. start to think for yourself and leave what makes you human, namely THINKING, not to other people who died thousands of years ago and who did not understand anything about it.
Denise Gasthaus, 28
... and I feel sorry for those who cannot feel God's presence! I couldn't exist without his presence!
"Mourners who have lost loved ones and friends have gathered for prayer."
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